Владельцы Ошо-Пуны.

Добавлено: Вс Янв 18, 2009 10:49 pm

Сразу прошу прощения у администрации за создание такой "спорной" темы!

Необходимость её появления была вызвана постами не только уважаемого Свами Дхиан Амита, но и других людей, задающих вопросы именно о том, кто и как управляет Ошо Ашрамом в Пуне, кто такие "внутренний круг" и что эти люди в действительности делают... Confused

Вопрос достаточно сложный, но поскольку была такая просьба на форуме - объяснить, кто такие избранные самим Ошо люди внутреннего круга, перечисляю их поимённо:

JAYESH (CHAIRMAN) - живёт постоянно в Канаде.
AMRITO (VICE CHAIRMAN) - личный врач Ошо, тот самый, кого можно увидеть крупным планом в фильме "Я оставляю вам свою мечту". Живёт в Пуне..
ANANDO (SECRETERY)
AMITABH
ANASHA
AVIRBHAVA
CHITTEN
DEVAGEET - Живёт в Пуне.
GARIMO
HASYA
JAYANTIBHAI
KAVEESHA - умерла в октябре 1998 года.
MUKTA THE GREEK - Старенькая. Живёт в Пуне.
NEELAM - основательница ашрама Ошо-Нисарга в Гималаях.
PLOTINUS
PRASAD
TATHAGHAT
TURIYA
VEDANT
YOGI
ZAREEN

Если кто-то из числа этих людей умирает, то, должен быть избран преемник из числа наиболее заслуженных людей Ошо коммуны. Количество людей "внутреннего круга" при всём происходящем должно оставаться неизменным - 21 человек.

Добавлено: Вс Янв 18, 2009 11:03 pm

Элемент мистицизма и таинственных сект сгустился над городом
Интересно

Добавлено: Вс Янв 18, 2009 11:27 pm

Sartir
Это всего лишь вопрос истории и развития Ошо коммуны...

Вот, например, наш уважаемый Roshan на сайте http://ariom.ru/forum/t2705-0-asc-15.html написал

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Ма Прем Кавиша входила во внутренний круг, состоявший из 21 человека.
Сразу после ухода Ошо она одна противостояла деятельности остальных членов внутреннего круга по вопросам повальной коммерциализации наследия Ошо. Они победили и вскоре ей пришлось уехать в Штаты, а деятельность руководства коммуны привела к известной нынешней плачевной ситуации в Пуне.

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David: One of the things that in these last few days that's so awesome to me is that I can't find the difference between Kaveesha and Osho. I heard her say that she dissolved into Him years ago, I heard her say that, it was kind of my experience but I could only say I heard her say that. And today I can't find the difference, there's no distinction strangely enough in me. So when I look at Him or I look at her, it's really ...

Добавлено: Вс Янв 18, 2009 11:39 pm

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Это всего лишь вопрос истории и развития Ошо коммуны

Это и интересно
Что сейчас с Ма Прем Камишей? Не знаешь?

Добавлено: Вс Янв 18, 2009 11:51 pm

Sartir
Умерла она Embarassed

вот тут можешь фотографии посмотреть

http://www.wonderfull-things.com/oshos/Kaveesha/kaveesha/kavee_1.htm

Our Beloved Kaveesha left her body on Thursday afternoon, October 22, at 3:30 pm Sedona time. On Tuesday afternoon it became obvious that Kaveesha was about to leave the body, and the quality of her breathing changed. She seemed to be in a tremendous peacefulness.

Sedona

For the first time in many months she did not seem to be in pain - she was hovering around her body. It was incredibly beautiful in the room. She was surrounded by many of her loved ones.

David stayed up with her all of Wednesday night, just being present with her. It felt like any moment she would go, she was just hanging on by a thread. It became obvious to David that she was preparing to leave, because there was no reason for her to be hanging around. The image he kept getting was that she was like the "energizer bunny" - her body just kept going and going and going.

In these last months when Wadud was visiting Kaveesha she said to him, "When it's time for me to go you will help me leave the body, won't you, because I don't know how to do that." And of course he said yes.

So about 3:20 on Thursday, after everyone had had a nice lunch, Wadud played her music and made a beautiful invocation to Osho. Until then it appeared that she had been "unconscious" and at that moment she opened her eyes wide and looked around at all of her beloveds. She had a look of utter ecstasy on her face.

David had been holding her hand all day with no response, yet in that moment she squeezed his hand, looked in his eyes ... and flew out the top of her head. It was really something! It was really something! David just kept hearing her saying, "This is great. This is really great!"

I feel so grateful and I feel so blessed, so incredibly blessed.

About 10 days ago I went to my fax machine and there's a fax from Gila and Prachurya. They were reading the Glimpses of a Golden Childhood and they sent me a page from it, and it was so perfect. It really carried me in the week that followed, so I thought I would share that with you tonight.

Osho was talking about His first experience of death, and that was of His grandfather. It goes like this: "Unless you love someone and then he dies, you cannot really encounter death. Let this be underlined. Death can only be enountered in the death of the loved one. When Love plus Death surrounds you, there is a transformation, an immense mutation, as if a new being is born. You are never the same again. But people do not love, and because they do not love they can't experience death the way I experienced it. Without love, death does not give you the keys to Existence. With love it hands over to you the keys to all that is."

And boy, is that the Truth!

I've just been so incredibly happy because we've been hearing and reading all these truths for all these years. And now it is my knowing. All of these incredible Jewels that He's talking about, and you're thinking, "Yeah, that sounds so great. I want that too, I would love to have that and I want that experience also." And how often do you get this chance to know something that is able to take me beyond the duality, give me an experience of something that doesn't have an opposite. And guess what? It's really something!

Every moment I just keep feeling, I am so grateful. I feel so blessed.

As these days have been going by, I've encountered so many of you and so many people have called me from around the world and of course it's different with each person that I speak to. Nine times out of ten I'm consoling those people ...! Immediately. They call with such sadness and condolences and I want them to know that the greatest thing that ever happened in my life just happened. I know this

sounds really strange, but you know, she gave me the greatest gift - life did, whatever did, I don't know.

So of course everyone says, how are you? how are you? and I immediately think ... can this person handle that everything's just great? I have to gently explain to them that she didn't die. Something happened in that moment, I haven't been the same since.

The thing that I kind of get with this is that for so many years hanging around Kaveesha you just have to hang right in the moment. She didn't know anything of the past or anything of the future. So I just had to get with it immediately from the beginning - if you wanted to survive around her you had to, which wasn't too difficult. So I'm pretty well versed in the moment.
I imagine that if I got into the past or got into the future I'd probably be in a lot of trouble. So, so far so good is how I keep feeling. So ... this moment's okay, the next moment seems to just take care of itself.

And I feel like that's what I can share with you. Because it's all of our moment. Her Love, as we all know, was much bigger than just loving one person. She poured herself in all of us. So when I look at all of you I see her. It makes me feel really good.

I've heard a few little stories around, and one of the things I'd like to do tonight is give you a little flavor of what happened the last few days with Kaveesha so you have it straight from my mouth.

This last year has been incredibly challenging and sometimes amazingly difficult for me, as you can imagine. Watching the most beloved person for me suffer like that in the body - I just hated it. And it was really difficult because there's nothing like that helplessness ... and to just learn to just stay present with that person, in the midst of something that all of us would just hate. And of course I can see now that maybe one of her biggest lessons this year, and she even said it, was "You are not the Body." She's a good student, she loved to learn - that was her deal - and life just poured it on! A hard lesson. But as those that were hanging around her and I myself saw, she was so graceful with it, in spite of the difficulty.

As the months went by, my lesson at the same time is that we're constantly new, Life is a River, things are changing every moment. That was my lesson: to watch this person that I loved who was constantly changing ... and I not be able to hold onto an idea of who she was, and how she should be, and how she should relate with me, and how we should love ...

As the last weeks came, she stopped talking to me. And we loved to gossip and just chat - always simple, what's on the television or whatever it was. But she one day just stopped talking to me. And I just had to accept, this is really hard, you know. Okay. I'm letting go also, this is a death for me as well.

So I started having monologues with her. I would talk and she wouldn't answer. I would laugh ... here I'm having a monologue with you, I'm just chatting away! And she would still be looking at me with that twinkle in her eye, she just didn't have the energy to relate with me, but she would still look at me with that look, as if to say "I know." So I would answer for her, and I'd say, "Is that what you mean? Is that right?" Sometimes she'd nod, and most of the time she'd just look at me.

So I was having to learn to find her in another way, and slowly I managed to stop having the monologue. But I had needed that monologue ... And then I just felt, okay ... and I found her in another way. I just kept saying, "I'm big enough for this, I'm up for the challenge." And of course her presence and her love are so tangible - it wasn't so difficult to feel loved, touched, because by then she was just looking at me in the most loving way as we were eating, or just lying there.

And then she shut her eyes, she didn't even look at me. And then I was demanded to reach for a deeper connection, not that it wasn't there, but just to find her in another way. And I did.

And of course, through all this she needs so much attention and care, and we had beloveds around us taking care of her all the time ... so by then we weren't even alone ever again, there was always someone around. And that was hard.

And then Tuesday rolled around, and she just seemed like she was starting to hover above herself, starting to disconnect from her body. But it was so peaceful, so incredibly beautiful in the room, and she seemed for the first time to me out of pain.

So my heart was a little bit lighter because I started to feel ... it wasn't the person that I knew but she felt more like the person that I know. I know that sounds strange ...

And then slowly as that day went on she didn't seem to come back in consciousness, she didn't want water, she didn't want food. Tuesday afternoon Indivar called Kaveesha's kids and Hanya, and told them he felt she was getting ready to go and if they wanted to come they should come.

So Wednesday came around, and she wasn't going anywhere. Wadud came over, and she felt like she was going any minute ... and she wasn't going anywhere. She was hovering around herself, she seemed much farther away from herself. I was holding her hand, she wasn't responding. So I just laid in the bed with her and the whole day went by. I thought she would go any minute ...

There's one thing we all know about Kaveesha, she would always tell us, "I have perfect timing!" And she said it with such assurance ... and it's true. She would always know exactly when to say something to somebody, that very moment and not a moment sooner. And I thought, I guess you're going to take off that way too, in your own perfect timing.

So Wednesday kind of strolled on by until about mid-day when her son Billy and her daughter Heidi arrived. She hadn't had a drink of water, we would put water there but there was no response, but as soon as they were there for about 5 minutes she just zoomed back in her body, and wanted ice and a milk shake ... She really saw them and was happy to see them in her own way, she opened her eyes and recognized them, and they were just talking to her. And then about 2 hours later she drifted right back out after she had acknowledged them. So generous. And then we thought, now she's ready to go. But no, but she's like the energizer bunny, she just kept on going. There was no reason ... so much love in the room and everyone was present just there, her kids very present, very loving. And she wasn't going.

Wednesday night rolls around, she's barely breathing, and Hanya arrived and gave her a kiss, and stayed for two hours. But she still didn't leave, so they went home, and I'm just wide awake with her all night thinking now you're ready to go. And her hands were on fire, I could barely hold her hands. She was barely breathing, but her hands and her feet were on fire, very hot. Holding her hand was like holding a furnace, I could hold for a little bit and I had to let go, I just couldn't handle the energy!

The hours rolled by, I was just looking, it was so strange. And morning came and the room was empty, we were just in the room together. The door was open, but it was as if there was a barrier at the door and no-one could come in. People were in the house, but no-one could come into the room. I thought, maybe now she's ready to go.
It got to 11:30 and people started arriving - Wadud, Waduda - the room filled up. Everyone was sitting there for an hour, two hours ... there's not even a pulse, Indivar says she'll go any minute, but she wasn't ready to go. So almost at 3 o'clock Wadud says, "Let's all go to the kitchen and have a nice lunch and then we'll go back in the room and do what I'm going to do, whatever that is."

So everyone went out and had lunch, and about 3:20 everyone came back. Wadud and Waduda sat by Kaveesha's bed, Wadud's gathering the music he wants to play, I'm holding Kaveesha's hand...

Kaveesha of course had asked Wadud to help her leave her body because she said "I don't know how to do that!" So innocent, "I don't know how to do that!" So he of course said, "Okay." Now he's never helped anyone leave their body - he's never seen a dead body! But I didn't know this. I think he knows exactly what to do! But we were jumping in the river also.

Later I asked him, he said "I sat down, I was completely blank." He had this beautiful crystal that Kaveesha had given him, he played this very soft music. He was thinking, we'll do a nice ceremony and maybe later on tonight she'll leave the body.

So he did this unbelievably beautiful invocation to Osho, he says, "We're going to release our

projections on who we think she is," and at that moment she opened her eyes. She looked around, she looked at me, she was squeezing my hand. And Wadud says, "And everyone around the world, all projections are being released." And at that moment there was an explosion, and she started to take off. It was almost like choreographed, right on cue.
Wadud adds, "Hasya said, she's leaving the body. And I had my eyes closed, seeing this Light around the world, hearing the music ..."

So Wadud comes back and puts this crystal on her heart with such elegance, such beauty, like he was unlocking the doors, and then he puts it on her third eye, and then he does something at the crown, like opening the flowers, he like turned ... and all of a sudden she just blew out of the top of her head!

Hasya: "Wadud had the most surprised look on his face!"

It was like the movies, timing ... "I told you you would help me go" and she really meant it. The music was "I believe I can fly" - it was like choreographed! And I kept saying "I am so happy, I am so happy." I think everyone feels it as I say it. I feel like I could really take you there, it's so alive in every cell of me, this moment. It was transcendental, so ultimate ...

She took me with her. It was like she grabbed my hand and took me with her, and I kept her here ... such a strange moment ... when I try to talk about it it sounds weird! But that's what it feels like. I think she would have died months ago if we didn't have the connection that we have ... this incredible Love ... I don't even know what it is we have. So many things! Love like I've never had in lives I guess.

I feel so blessed, I am so grateful.

Wadud: Something which really touched me while it was happening was, I was really feeling I was touching Osho ... and that shocked me, it was like one shock after another. My whole thing with Kaveesha from day one was to stretch me way beyond ... whatever was possible, what I thought was possible. Starting off with Sudipo! Sudipo was going to Kaveesha with some problem, so Kaveesha called me in and said, "Take it out! Do surgery and get rid of this!" and that shocked me, that was the last thing I had ever thought possible. And it's been one thing after another. So by the time she asked me to help her leave her body I had got used to the deal. So even though she's asking me to do something that in my mind is absolutely not possible, I have no experience, I never saw someone leave the body. And especially her! I thought, if you would ask me to help just anybody then ... but you're asking me to help you! That was so incredible for me.

But when she was leaving her body, I felt she was leaving in Osho. It was like He was a pipe, a conduit or something, I can't even find the right words. And as that was happening I got a very strong sense that that is possible for every disciple. That when we leave our bodies in the Master's presence, we're leaving in Him. And that one moment - you know they say when a person dies they review their whole life - it was like a thousand things in one moment. And I felt that for me, for many, she has brought us closer to the Master. Is that true? (Yes!) And even in her death I felt, she's bringing me to the Master in her death, bringing all of us to Him.

David: One of the things that in these last few days that's so awesome to me is that I can't find the difference between Kaveesha and Osho. I heard her say that she dissolved into Him years ago, I heard her say that, it was kind of my experience but I could only say I heard her say that. And today I can't find the difference, there's no distinction strangely enough in me. So when I look at Him or I look at her, it's really ...

Hasya: For me in that moment she pulled me into space of relaxation, I can't describe it any other way, but with it came a loss of fear of my own death - not totally, but some percentage of my fear dropped.

A different space. A definite relaxation, and since I experienced that I find that if I'm sitting on a chair that's where I stay until I have to be somewhere else. It was amazing. And her teaching never stopped till the very end. My sitting there and waiting for her, for something ... it was this ability to wait ... and she waited until it was right. And I had a definite sense that she was not choosing one way or the other, to leave, to stay, to live, to die. She was choiceless, just waiting ... And I'll never forget the look on Wadud's face!!

David: I was telling the group this morning that when we came to the Ranch for the first time in 1982 we went in to see Osho and He said two things to us, Hasya, Yogi, Kaveesha and I. He said to the four of us, I want you to start an Academy of Meditation. He drew a picture of what He wanted it to look like, He made a beautiful drawing of what He had in mind. He said it would be at the top of the Ranch, and He picked out the land for it. He was very specific. And He turned to Kaveesha and said, "And your work is to make the invisible visible. That's going to be your work." And by golly, she certainly did it, she succeeded just brilliantly.

And that's our gift, that we now can bring the invisible to visible here in this beautiful Buddhafield that she so lovingly tended and threw a million seeds down. Such a great gardener too!

We all have so many beautiful seeds in us ... that are not really seeds any more as far as I can see. They are really well rooted in that soil. Osho just said, here! Here's some seeds, go plant them, go make a garden.

A few months before, on a day in July, Kaveesha informed us she was leaving her body that day and at that time I asked her, what do you want us to do when you die? She said, you figure it out! So I said what do you want me to do with your ashes? She looked off into the distance for a minute and said, put me in a Temple of Love. I said I would be happy to do that, and a week after she left the body we created the Kaveesha Temple of Love Fund where people who are interested can contribute to this beautiful temple building that we will construct.

I feel so blessed, I am so grateful.
With love to you all, David

Beloveds,
After my experience of Kaveesha leaving her body, and our Celebration for her, I felt that I would like to collect stories about her for a book about a devotee who was also a teacher. Kaveesha was such a lover of gossips and stories ... so if you have any stories, long or short, funny or sad, wise or silly, please send them to me at oshoacad@sedona.net. As the subject, please say Kaveesha story. Love, Indivar

Отсюда взял.

Добавлено: Вс Янв 18, 2009 11:59 pm

Ясно. А какова ситуация с Пуно-Ашрамом сейчас? Почему состояние "плачевное"?

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 12:17 am

Sartir
О внутреннем круге, подробно читайте Здесь. Exclamation

Всё на английском, но написано достаточно просто. Там почти в самом конце есть раздел "The inner Сirсle" вот его и смотрите! Very Happy

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 1:17 pm

Cегодня 19 Января - день когда Ошо оставил земное тело....

«Когда я перестану приходить, моё отсутствие подчеркнёт вашу собственную реальность. Прежде у неё не было такой возможности проявиться. Это очень хорошо, что вы останетесь наедине с собой, потому что ваше паломничество не начнётся, пока вы не осознаете, кто вы и где. Впереди очень важные дни, и помните, ваша реальность – это всё то, что вы постигаете сами. Все формы медитации, которые я дал, не требуют обязательного моего присутствия. Есть ли я рядом, или нет – никакой разницы. Всё зависит только от вас. Для медитации нужно ваше присутствие, а не моё. Есть лишь одна религиозность – Религиозность любви. Есть лишь одна истина – Истина радости, жизни и счастья. Вся эта планета земля едина, всё человечество – единое целое. Мы – частички друг друга».

6 Октября 1989 года Ошо выбирает внутренний круг - эта группа саньясинов состоит из двадцати одного ближайших ученика, на которых возложена ответственность административного управления, и решения некоторых практических вопросов в менеджменте коммуны.

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 2:42 pm

Ошо говорит "Празднуйте мой уход" Smile

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 3:11 pm

Dyanesh
Во внутреннем круге Ошо, находятся только люди, признаваемые Ошо своими учениками Exclamation

Ошо разве управляющий Very Happy

Нет

тогда почему, его ученики вдруг стали менеджерами Question

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 3:43 pm

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ANASHA

А это имя произносится как "анаша"? Smile

Просто любопытно.

Не пойму, какие претензии могут быть к внутреннему кругу. Их выбрал ОШО. Значит, не просто так выбрал - а было, за что. Если эти люди знали его лично и были его ближайшими учениками/сподвижниками, кому как не им заправлять в Пуне?
Или вы предлагаете выбирать "короля Пуны" из числа просветлённых и медиумов, таких, как наши Свами Мистик Йоги и Свами Дхиан Амит?
Или руководствоваться принципом "кто тут меньше всех любит деньги" (тогда Йоги сразу отпадает, и Клыгин тоже.) Laughing

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Our Beloved Kaveesha left her body on Thursday afternoon, October 22, at 3:30 pm Sedona time.

Так что, Ма Прем Кавиша в Седоне жила? Surprised

А я чисто "от балды" в одной из своих книг описал индейское место Силы на горе Седона... интересное совпадение. Smile

В Пуне я не был, поэтому моё мнение относительно Пуны - это всего лишь моё мнение относительно Пуны. Smile

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 4:31 pm

Свами Дхиан Амит

Цитата:

Ошо говорит "Празднуйте мой уход"

Празднуйте! Very Happy

Цитата:

Во внутреннем круге Ошо, находятся только люди, признаваемые Ошо своими учениками Ошо разве управляющий Нет тогда почему, его ученики вдруг стали менеджерами Question

Все те, кто принимали саньясу у Ошо, признавались им как ученики и друзья. Не было избранных и суперизбранных. Но для управления ашрамом, для организации работы коммуны по всему миру, была необходимость именно в создании группы людей, которые бы занимались такой работой, вот с этой целью и был создан внутренний круг. Они управленцы, говоря русским языком, это слово означает то же самое, что и manager по английски.

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 4:43 pm

Александр Клыгин

Цитата:

Или вы предлагаете выбирать "короля Пуны" из числа просветлённых и медиумов, таких, как наши Свами Мистик Йоги и Свами Дхиан Амит?

А что, им только волю дай, так и выберут же! Very Happy

Самое интересное в этом, что ни "медиум", ни "просветлённый", реально даже не представляют той ситуации, которая сложилась на сегодняшний день в Пуне. Но уверены, что всё знают... наверное у них для связи в головах вмонтирован какой-то специальный порт беспроводного коннекта Shocked

Кстати, Свами Дхиан Амит, а что вы ещё знаете о внутреннем круге, кроме того, что это признаваемые самим Ошо ученики?

Что вы слышали о развитии Пуны после того, как Ошо оставил земное тело? Question

Например о том, почему из Ошо ашрама в Карегаон парке, внутренним кругом это место было переименовано в "Медитационный курорт"? Question

Или почему на сегодняшний день в Пуне не значится больше такой аудитории, как Ошо-Самадхи, но вместо этого скромно употребляется выражение: "медитация в аудитории Лао-Цзы"?

На фото урна с прахом Ошо в аудитории "Ошо-Самадхи". Сидящая по центру женщина, это Ма Дхарм Джотти, автор книги "Сто сказок для десяти тысяч Будд", основательница двух Ашрамов в Дели и одна из ближайших учениц Бхагавана Шри Раджниша. В сегодняшнюю Пуну ей вход закрыт.

У Вас, как у медиума есть на это ответы? Question

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 7:12 pm

Сегодня особый день. Всем замечательных чудес на сатсанге.

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 7:18 pm

Roshan, Dyanesh

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Самое интересное в этом, что ни "медиум", ни "просветлённый", реально даже не представляют той ситуации, которая сложилась на сегодняшний день в Пуне. Но уверены, что всё знают... наверное у них для связи в головах вмонтирован какой-то специальный порт беспроводного коннекта

Угу.

Dyanesh, сорри за мой провокационный вопрос: а ты в Пуне был? Я не цепляюсь, просто любопытно. Я - не был. Smile

Поэтому не имею ни малейшего представления, чего там творится.
Анастасия - это твоё фото? Smile

Добавлено: Пн Янв 19, 2009 11:37 pm

Александр Клыгин

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Dyanesh, сорри за мой провокационный вопрос: а ты в Пуне был?

Был. Первый раз около восьми лет назад. После ещё ездил, но ненадолго. Последний раз был там 3 года назад. Wink

С работой, увы не получается увязать поездки по миру. Так что когда в следующий раз смогу выбраться в Пуну, даже не представляю. Smile

В январе 1989 года Ошо сказал Ма Йоге Нилам, что от неё сейчас будет требоваться помощь в управлении глобальной международной работой, которую ведёт коммуна. А затем он назвал имя канадца Мишеля О,Бриана, чьё новое имя было Джайеш. «Он имеет очень хорошее понимание практической жизни мира, хотя он и немного колеблющийся от природы». Ошо также выделил имена Ананды и Амриты, и сказал, что они должны также помогать ей. Для него развитие самостоятельности коммуны было очень значимым. Однажды он позвал Джайеша, Амриту, Ананду, Нилам и сказал им: «вы все пребываете на наших встречах регулярно и анализируете всё, что бы ни происходило здесь. Вы также думаете о том, чтобы распространить эту работу в других странах».

Он сделал большое ударение на том, что внутреннее функционирование работы комитета должно всегда удерживаться в секрете. А также инструктировал, что этот комитет не должен потворствовать только духовной жизни, но наблюдать за всеми практическими проблемами и широкой работой всей коммуны.

В комитет вошло 11 женщин и 10 мужчин.

Внутренний круг только означает наблюдение за происходящей в мире революцией человеческого сознания, но при этом членство не подразумевает какого-то легального статуса. Цель круга – созидать работу Ошо и распространять её.

Добавлено: Вт Янв 20, 2009 12:19 am

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Был. Первый раз около восьми лет назад. После ещё ездил, но ненадолго. Последний раз был там 3 года назад.

У? Да ты крутой чел, оказывается! Very Happy

Риспект и уважуха! Very Happy

Добавлено: Вт Янв 20, 2009 12:38 am

Александр Клыгин
Жаль, что ты не смотришь видео!
Тут ведь половина общения на форуме имено в том, чтобы заценить фильмы и фотографии! Very Happy

Видео. Прямой репортаж Самбула из "Немецкой булочной" в Карегаон парке Пуны. Very Happy

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Александр Клыгин
Жаль, что ты не смотришь видео!
Тут ведь половина бщения на форуме имено в том, чтобы заценить фильмы и фотографии!

Ну, некоторые фото я открываю. А вообще, да... все мы когда-то начинали с примитивной техники. Laughing