Оsho vision.

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OSHO VISION

Living is hard, loving is harder. But fantasising about love is easy -- that's what people misunderstand for love.
So whenever people say that they have fallen in love, they are just fantasising, projecting. Whatsoever they need, they go on projecting onto the other. They make the other to look as they would like, they paint the other's face in their own colours. Falling in love is not a real phenomenon -- it is dreamstuff. You both create two ideal natures which are unreal and which cannot bear up long enough. The moment you start settling, reality starts asserting itself and problems arise. Now you are not alone -- the other is there.
The problem arises when you have to make concessions for the other and his reality, his way of being. In the beginning each lover is alone and the other is just like a screen onto which he goes on fantasising; the other is passive. But by and by you come close, you settle; the honeymoon is over. The other has to be real otherwise he will start feeling phoney, and when the reality comes, it is hard: then there is conflict. You would like her according to you, and she would like you according to her. . . and these are unconscious things.
So every love is, in a way, doomed. If it is love it is doomed, and the greater it is, the greater is the danger. If you have been on a very big flight, if you have moved really high, you will fall to the very bottom, to the very lowest point of your energy -- and then miseries and crying and weeping. In this state, if you become a little aware, if you see the whole thing a little aloof, as if it is not happening to you but to two characters. . . not to you -- and if you try to be a little detached, this painfull period will pass. You will never go to that height which was possible in a romantic moment, but that is not needed, because each high brings a low, and life has to settle somewhere in the middle, in a balance.
That's where, if love continues in spite of all the problems, it finally settles; a balance, a baseline, from where you start operating -- neither high nor low, a tranquillity, a stillness. Of course there is not going to be that excitement. If you hanker for excitement then love will never settle. You will go on changing lovers, because only the first part of the affair is beautiful. And if you go on changing you have more first parts, and whenever the second part starts, you escape. That's what is happening in the West.
You eat just the cookie -- but that is not nourishment. By and by if that becomes a habit, your whole being will be destroyed by it; it will destroy the whole appetite. One day or other, one has to come down from the flight, walk on the earth, be rooted in the earth, and let reality be there. We can have dreams sometimes, but one has to live with reality.
So this point is coming. And he is right not to take any decision; there is no need -- just watch the process. In fact the very witnessing of the process will give you a very very deep integrity. It will be more difficult for you because women are more emotional. Watching is more difficult for them. They cannot get aloof from themselves; they cannot make that distance. But if you can make it -- and it can be made -- the integrity that comes to a woman is deeper than when it comes to a man, because a woman is more earth-rooted. Once you spread your roots into the earth, a woman attains to a better balance than any man can ever attain.
Man is a wanderer. If you create too much trouble, it is very easy for a man to escape from you. In fact he will be thankful to you that you created so much trouble that he escaped; you created the situation and forced him to escape! Man is a wanderer; he would like to move to another woman.
So be a little more alert. If you feel like crying, weeping, cry and weep, but cry and weep alone; no need to burden him. He has not done any wrong to you, so why make him miserable? Let him face his own reality, and you face your own. Everybody has to come to encounter himself, and nobody can be there -- not even your lover. You have to be alone.
So just a little more awareness will be needed. Love alone cannot last long. Love plus awareness can become an eternal phenomenon. . . something so deep that even death cannot destroy it. But then you have to pass all these negative states. You have enjoyed the high; now you have to enjoy the low also! And don't try to escape from the low -- live it. That too is part of growth. And if you love each other then whatsoever happens, all helps finally; eventually it helps. These are all growth pangs, pains.
So this is all that I would like to say to you: that the mind would like to change or to live again and again in the same fantasy, and if the fantasy is not possible, then it would like you to change partners. This is how mind functions . . mind has no patience, so don't listen to it.
You have both changed partners enough; that is not going to help much. This time make awareness your concentration, rather than love, and love will follow.
And don't create unnecessary problems. If you can watch them, drop them -- good. If it is absolutely impossible to drop them, have a little fight, create a little trouble, but remain conscious. At least you can do one thing: when one is getting into it, the other can remain conscious. Make it a contract that when he gets deep into it, you have to be conscious; when you get into it, he has to be conscious. Help each other to be conscious.
In fact that is the greatest gift that love can give -- the gift of awareness.
And one more thing I would like to tell you is that in the beginning when two persons fall in love, they are interested in each other. Sooner or later that starts fading because you become known to each other.
You were curious to know each other because you were unknown territories. Sooner or later you become known territories -- the whole topography of the body and the mind is known; by and by one becomes acquainted. Then the problem arises of how to remain continuously interested in the other. Either you can pretend -- as in the whole world marriage goes on pretending, both partners knowing that it is not true and is humanly impossible. . . . And pretension is not good. Nothing destroys love more than pretension. Once two partners have decided to pretend, their love is already dead. So never pretend. Then what to do? If the interest is already fading and you don't pretend then nothing can be done about it. Create an interest which transcends you both.
In the beginning, lovers are interested in each other. If they really want to go on a journey deeper into love, they should become interested in something which is beyond both. In the beginning, lovers look into each other's eyes. That cannot continue forever. The day has to come when they look towards the moon together. Meeting at first is like meeting each other directly. By and by you meet each other indirectly.
You can see if two lovers are just at the beginning of their affair -- you will see them facing each other; they are still in the honeymoon phase of it. But if they have settled and the honeymoon phase is over, the excitement is gone, and they have become quiet, tranquil, you will not see them facing each other. They will be facing something else -- the moon, a flower. . . they may be listening to a poem. Something, a common ground, in which both are interested. This is now the way that they are interested in each other -- an indirect way.
So before the interest in each other fades, create indirect ways. Otherwise, this is my observation -- that many couples sooner or later are bored with each other.
First they are in ecstasy, then conflict. That too is good -- at least there is something to do. When that too is gone, then emptiness. . . just facing each other's emptiness. One becomes very much scared, afraid to death. Then they want something -- and if they don't create something in which they both can share, it will be difficult for them to be together. So the first phase is the phase of ecstasy, now of agony; and the third stage will be coming soon.
Before the third comes, be prepared! Move away from each other but together. If you can find a common goal, a common destiny, then you can love forever and forever, mm? Good! but in spite of everything, carry it to the very end.

*OSHO VISION excerpted from: Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Osho) * Be Realistic: Plan For A Miracle ( a forth darshan diary) * Chapter 13 * Osho talked to Ma Anuradha * Page 207 to 211 * First Edition: 1977 * Sunday, March 28th 1976 7.p.m. * Chuang Tzu Auditorium, Shree Rajneesh Ashram, Poona, Maharashtra, India.

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Question

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Love
Do you hear me?
Do you see me?
I stand at the door and knock,
and I knock because of a promise made
in another life and another age.

OSHO A Cup of Tea #310

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He made more than 120 Osho books Laughing

in russian language Wink

This book - OSHO A Cup of Tea we are very like too, in Sw. Prayas translation Very Happy

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